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Whoopee Goldberg Defends Polanski

Nevertheless, most of Roman Polanski's Hollywood friends are rallying around him. People who have signed a Free Polanski petition include film mogul Harvey Weinstein, director Martin Scorsese and, ironically enough, Woody Allen.

How can Hollywood possibly portray Polanski as a victim? A 13 year old cannot give consent. He plead guilty. He jumped bail. :dunno:

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Oh,,,,, they must have left that out of the deposition. :smile:

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the stupidest thing the jackoff did was run. God knows, if he'd stayed, with his money he wouldn't have served nearly the term you or me would have served.


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did anyone else see the documentary about this whole incident, very interesting and shows how political the entire thing is/was and how the original presiding judge was an attention whore and how he factored into to polanski fleeing the country.


So if it was Whoopi's 13 yr old daughter she would be ok with the whole situation?


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Ichabod wrote:
Whoopee Goldberg Defends Polanski

Nevertheless, most of Roman Polanski's Hollywood friends are rallying around him. People who have signed a Free Polanski petition include film mogul Harvey Weinstein, director Martin Scorsese and, ironically enough, Woody Allen.

How can Hollywood possibly portray Polanski as a victim? A 13 year old cannot give consent. He plead guilty. He jumped bail. :dunno:


I personally hope they convict his ass and put him in a cell with Charlie Manson. Then they can both talk about the fun things they did with / to Sharon Tate.

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The support this guy has is sickening. I don't care how great your films are, you're not above the law.


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he needs to be dead.


A little harsh.


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he needs to be dead.


A little harsh.

anybody do what he did to my daughter, he'd be dead.

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The support this guy has is sickening. I don't care how great your films are, you're not above the law.

I don't get it either. I couldn't believe #1: He won a fucking Oscar and #2: The support Hollywood gave him then and now. The sick fuck drugged and raped a 13 yr old kid for chrissakes. How do you justify support for that? w. t. f.

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he needs to be dead.


A little harsh.

anybody do what he did to my daughter, he'd be dead.


So you would kill him? :rolleyes: So now you spend the rest of your life in prison away from your daughter and family? Come on now. You talk a big game, but you wouldn't do anything like that and neither would I. I don't get the support for this dude either. He needs to do time, but let's not be silly.


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A little harsh.

anybody do what he did to my daughter, he'd be dead.


So you would kill him? :rolleyes: So now you spend the rest of your life in prison away from your daughter and family? Come on now. You talk a big game, but you wouldn't do anything like that and neither would I. I don't get the support for this dude either. He needs to do time, but let's not be silly.

yes i would.

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Sweet Greggo wrote:
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The support this guy has is sickening. I don't care how great your films are, you're not above the law.

I don't get it either. I couldn't believe #1: He won a fucking Oscar and #2: The support Hollywood gave him then and now. The sick fuck drugged and raped a 13 yr old kid for chrissakes. How do you justify support for that? w. t. f.

Giving him an Oscar still isn't as shameful as giving one to Crash.


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Giving him an Oscar still isn't as shameful as giving one to Crash.


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Giving him an Oscar still isn't as shameful as giving one to Crash.


You can not even being to fathom the love I have for you right now.

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I don't get why what whoopi said was so wrong? So now, you're supporting him if you're not going irrationally batshit about it?

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really? you don't think saying 'it wasn't rape rape' is pretty fucked up?


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I don't even get what point she was going for with that.
I'm no hard ass law n order kind, but, damn, it was a 13 year old. Screwing a chick that age = rape. Rape rape.


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really? you don't think saying 'it wasn't rape rape' is pretty fucked up?


not in the context it was said. She was talking about the actual charge against him. It wasn't actually rape. She may have done a poor job illustrating that idea. But this is just red meat for the masses. Maybe she was pussy footing around supporting him, I don't know. But the way it's being treated in the media is pretty skewed.

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I don't even get what point she was going for with that.
I'm no hard ass law n order kind, but, damn, it was a 13 year old. Screwing a chick that age = rape. Rape rape.


she was saying that we have to be careful taking for granted that it was rape based on what we hear from other people. Everyone is running around saying that he was convicted of rape and whatnot and it's not even true. He admitted to drugging and fucking that chick, and if he was given a trial there's a pretty decent chance he'd be convicted of rape. But it's still speculation until the dude gets tried. As of right now he was convicted of sex with a minor... which is still pretty fucking bad. But it's not actual rape in the way people are talking about it. And from the info I got from you he other day, the original judge is to blame for all of this bullshit anyway. Its just a fucked up situation being made more fucked up by alarmist reporting.

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I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


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on the other hand, that judge was severely unethical, and is the main reason this shit is so fucked up.
So f me and you.


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I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


I believe that he committed rape. I also believe Dick Cheney committed treason. But until a court judges them on those things. You can't proceed, legally, as if they already did. Thats what makes what the judge did so bad. It robs this dude of his deserved justice.

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I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


I believe that he committed rape. I also believe Dick Cheney committed treason. But until a court judges them on those things. You can't proceed, legally, as if they already did. Thats what makes what the judge did so bad. It robs this dude of his deserved justice.

well, ok, :babyarm: on all that.


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I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


I believe that he committed rape. I also believe Dick Cheney committed treason. But until a court judges them on those things. You can't proceed, legally, as if they already did. Thats what makes what the judge did so bad. It robs this dude of his deserved justice.


He plead guilty as a plea bargain to the lesser charge. He was originally charged with sodomy and sexual assault. When he thought the judge might be reconsidering the plea deal, he skipped town. The fucker is guilty by his own admission, and his flight and fight against extradition prove it even more. If you can't figure out what was so wrong with what Whoopi said, you ain't playing with a full deck. I have a daughter and two granddaughters. What he did as a 44 YEAR OLD MAN was inexcusable, and he'd be wearing his balls in his mouth if he had done it to one of my girls.

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I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


I believe that he committed rape. I also believe Dick Cheney committed treason. But until a court judges them on those things. You can't proceed, legally, as if they already did. Thats what makes what the judge did so bad. It robs this dude of his deserved justice.


He plead guilty as a plea bargain to the lesser charge. He was originally charged with sodomy and sexual assault. When he thought the judge might be reconsidering the plea deal, he skipped town. The fucker is guilty by his own admission, and his flight and fight against extradition prove it even more. If you can't figure out what was so wrong with what Whoopi said, you ain't playing with a full deck. I have a daughter and two granddaughters. What he did as a 44 YEAR OLD MAN was inexcusable, and he'd be wearing his balls in his mouth if he had done it to one of my girls.

I don't always agree with Ray, but when I do, I prefer it's when he's talking about raping underage kids. :babyarm:

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You guys have watched too much Dexter. How are you going to get to France, find his place, get through his security and drag him out without anyone noticing?


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I haven't read up on this enough I guess. What exactly is the reason France didn't allow us to extradite him? Is drugging and anal raping kids the norm over there or something?

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I haven't read up on this enough I guess. What exactly is the reason France didn't allow us to extradite him? Is drugging and anal raping kids the norm over there or something?

They're French, that's why.


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Let's get an extraction team together. I vote for new unis too.


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All I know is regardless of the semantics used in the "crime" you plead guilty to... When the act is that you're in your mid forties and went balls deep in a 13 year old that you drugged and then skipped the country in order to elude punishment, you are not a "victim" worthy of sympathy.

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I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


I believe that he committed rape. I also believe Dick Cheney committed treason. But until a court judges them on those things. You can't proceed, legally, as if they already did. Thats what makes what the judge did so bad. It robs this dude of his deserved justice.


so now we can expect you to be coming to the aid of anyone that defends Cheney against public persecution?


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rowdyhatinwalt wrote:
I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


I believe that he committed rape. I also believe Dick Cheney committed treason. But until a court judges them on those things. You can't proceed, legally, as if they already did. Thats what makes what the judge did so bad. It robs this dude of his deserved justice.


He plead guilty as a plea bargain to the lesser charge. He was originally charged with sodomy and sexual assault. When he thought the judge might be reconsidering the plea deal, he skipped town. The fucker is guilty by his own admission, and his flight and fight against extradition prove it even more. If you can't figure out what was so wrong with what Whoopi said, you ain't playing with a full deck. I have a daughter and two granddaughters. What he did as a 44 YEAR OLD MAN was inexcusable, and he'd be wearing his balls in his mouth if he had done it to one of my girls.


Usually when you plea bargain to a lesser charge, it's because the DA can't get you on the full charge. Let me repeat, I am not defending the guy. But I'm also not letting an emotional reaction to the whole thing cloud my vision of the facts. What whoopi said was ill-thought out. I believe I said this already. But it does not deserve this backlash. She, if taken literally and not inferring a bunch of emotional shit into what she said, was just saying that his charge wasn't rape and you need to be more accurate when you report on the story. I don't even like Whoopi Goldberg. But when I heard what she said, it made some sense to me. That's all.

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I think most people understand that, regardless of the conviction, in reality HE RAPED AN UNDERAGE GIRL.
You can parse the exact legality all day long, but he raped her. Legally speaking? No. Morally speaking? Fuckin' a.


I believe that he committed rape. I also believe Dick Cheney committed treason. But until a court judges them on those things. You can't proceed, legally, as if they already did. Thats what makes what the judge did so bad. It robs this dude of his deserved justice.


so now we can expect you to be coming to the aid of anyone that defends Cheney against public persecution?


I'm not coming to her aid, dude. I just don't get what was so wrong with what she said in that one instance. I haven't followed the story since then. I couldn't give less of a shit about it. Whatever is going to happen will happen whether or not I agree with it. But yes, if someone's argument was Cheney has not been charged with treason so technically he's not a traitor. I would say the same thing I'd say about this dude. You're right, but I think he should be.

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Usually when you plea bargain to a lesser charge, it's because the DA can't get you on the full charge. Let me repeat, I am not defending the guy. But I'm also not letting an emotional reaction to the whole thing cloud my vision of the facts. What whoopi said was ill-thought out. I believe I said this already. But it does not deserve this backlash. She, if taken literally and not inferring a bunch of emotional shit into what she said, was just saying that his charge wasn't rape and you need to be more accurate when you report on the story. I don't even like Whoopi Goldberg. But when I heard what she said, it made some sense to me. That's all.


Or the DA wants to avoid a protracted expensive trial that could force the actual victim to re-live the attack multiple times over, particularly when you have a wealthy high-profile defendant (think William Kennedy Smith). What Whoopi said was it wasn't "rape rape", ie not a forcible violent attack. Apparently "date rape" (not rape rape) is ok now, at least in Whoopi's world. She deserves every bit of blow back that she's getting. Idiot celebs need to figure out that everything they say in their high profile positions can have a negative impact on their cushy careers. She might want to check with the Dixie Clits on that....

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