Rangers 2012

or somesuch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:26 am

Sweet Greggo wrote:

That last pitch was a bad call but that ump was consistly calling strikes at that location the whole game.

His strike zone was huge and he called strikes sometimes 2 seconds after it hit the glove. The warning of the two teams after the Hamilton HBP was also pathetic. He was making that game about him.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:53 pm

or somesuch wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

That last pitch was a bad call but that ump was consistly calling strikes at that location the whole game.

His strike zone was huge and he called strikes sometimes 2 seconds after it hit the glove. The warning of the two teams after the Hamilton HBP was also pathetic. He was making that game about him.

I don't remember ever seeing the bench get warned after their player gets purposely beaned.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

Sweet Greggo wrote:

or somesuch wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

That last pitch was a bad call but that ump was consistly calling strikes at that location the whole game.

His strike zone was huge and he called strikes sometimes 2 seconds after it hit the glove. The warning of the two teams after the Hamilton HBP was also pathetic. He was making that game about him.

I don't remember ever seeing the bench get warned after their player gets purposely beaned.

That happens all the time. It's to warn them against retaliating.

or somesuch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:09 pm

It's usually after the 2nd one though - or the 1st one after a hard slide or taunting. Guys get hit all the time without warning. This was after the 1st one, with very questionable intent and nothing had happened previously. I didn't even think it was on purpose, which made me wonder why the ump did it. The warning came out of nowhere. There was no previous bad blood. It did come face level though, but I don't even think Wash thought it was intentional. He was more worried that his SP, who already has control issues, couldn't pitch inside effectively with the warning.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:35 pm

Tit Whistle wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

or somesuch wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

That last pitch was a bad call but that ump was consistly calling strikes at that location the whole game.

His strike zone was huge and he called strikes sometimes 2 seconds after it hit the glove. The warning of the two teams after the Hamilton HBP was also pathetic. He was making that game about him.

I don't remember ever seeing the bench get warned after their player gets purposely beaned.

That happens all the time. It's to warn them against retaliating.

I should have been more clear. Somey said it, the Rangers got a warning when they did absolutely nothing prior to warrant it. And he's right that Hamilton probably wasn't hit on purpose. It looked like a brush back pitch that probably just got away from the pitcher.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

Sweet Greggo wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

or somesuch wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

That last pitch was a bad call but that ump was consistly calling strikes at that location the whole game.

His strike zone was huge and he called strikes sometimes 2 seconds after it hit the glove. The warning of the two teams after the Hamilton HBP was also pathetic. He was making that game about him.

I don't remember ever seeing the bench get warned after their player gets purposely beaned.

That happens all the time. It's to warn them against retaliating.

I should have been more clear. Somey said it, the Rangers got a warning when they did absolutely nothing prior to warrant it. And he's right that Hamilton probably wasn't hit on purpose. It looked like a brush back pitch that probably just got away from the pitcher.

There's always a reason to hit Josh Hamilton.

fruitdog · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am **Posts:** 6504

Tit Whistle wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

or somesuch wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

That last pitch was a bad call but that ump was consistly calling strikes at that location the whole game.

His strike zone was huge and he called strikes sometimes 2 seconds after it hit the glove. The warning of the two teams after the Hamilton HBP was also pathetic. He was making that game about him.

I don't remember ever seeing the bench get warned after their player gets purposely beaned.

That happens all the time. It's to warn them against retaliating.

I should have been more clear. Somey said it, the Rangers got a warning when they did absolutely nothing prior to warrant it. And he's right that Hamilton probably wasn't hit on purpose. It looked like a brush back pitch that probably just got away from the pitcher.

There's always a reason to hit Josh Hamilton.

Like the impending 180 million dollar contract he's about to sign with the Yankees.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:16 pm

They will rue the day. RUE I say!

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

fruitdog wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

or somesuch wrote:

Sweet Greggo wrote:

That last pitch was a bad call but that ump was consistly calling strikes at that location the whole game.

His strike zone was huge and he called strikes sometimes 2 seconds after it hit the glove. The warning of the two teams after the Hamilton HBP was also pathetic. He was making that game about him.

I don't remember ever seeing the bench get warned after their player gets purposely beaned.

That happens all the time. It's to warn them against retaliating.

I should have been more clear. Somey said it, the Rangers got a warning when they did absolutely nothing prior to warrant it. And he's right that Hamilton probably wasn't hit on purpose. It looked like a brush back pitch that probably just got away from the pitcher.

There's always a reason to hit Josh Hamilton.

Like the impending 180 million dollar contract he's about to sign with the Yankees.

Not.gonna.happen.

or somesuch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:47 pm

Tit Whistle wrote:

fruitdog wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

There's always a reason to hit Josh Hamilton.

Like the impending 180 million dollar contract he's about to sign with the Yankees.

Not.gonna.happen.

Tit Whistle wrote:

jim jack wrote:

I wonder if the Yanks would take Teixeira. Sexon is 3 for his last 20.

Posada is headed for 1b. Tex will never be a Yankee.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

This time it's different.

or somesuch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:49 pm

I agree though, just thought it was funny.

fruitdog · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am **Posts:** 6504

I kinda agree. My money is on the Dodgers writing that check.

cap · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:20 pm

suckas

or somesuch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:38 pm

HSO: Hamilton re-signs with Texas.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

The Dodgers already have $193M on the books for next season.

cap · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:49 pm

or somesuch wrote:

HSO: Hamilton re-signs with Texas.

that is ok

or somesuch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:04 pm

Tit Whistle wrote:

The Dodgers already have $193M on the books for next season.

Not to mention 3 OF with large salaries. They would have to move one of them. And they still have to get something done with Kershaw.

fruitdog · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am **Posts:** 6504

They don't have a budget.

fruitdog · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am **Posts:** 6504

or somesuch wrote:

HSO: Hamilton re-signs with Texas.

I think JD is too smart for that. My HSO: if the Rangers re-sign Hamilton and Face starts at DH next year then JD is gone.

jim jack · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:17 pm **Posts:** 8919

So, Boston is out?

or somesuch · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:37 pm

No. They would be my choice if the money gets silly. They're the ones that have the "space".

cap · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:36 pm

or somesuch wrote:

No. They would be my choice if the money gets silly. They're the ones that have the "space".

That would be bitter sweet

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:36 pm

Anywhere but here

cap · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:55 am

Sweet Greggo wrote:

Anywhere but here

why

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:46 am

Okay, keep in mind who is typing this:

1. They'll have to sign him to too many years. All great the first 2 but after that the roids will wear off, his body will really start breaking down and he'll become a distraction.

2. His narcissism is detrimental to the team. Brown contacts? Quitting tobacco in the middle of the season? Doesn't owe the Rangers anything?

3. "As Josh goes, so do the Rangers" - It's great when he's up and loving life, but when he's going through one of his phases he drags the whole team down. There are several exceptional players on the team. They can be great without him.

4. He's killed once and he'll do it again.

All this being said, if they can talk him into taking a 4 year deal I would be the first one to say sign him up.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

That's exactly why he needs to go to the Red Sox.

or somesuch · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:45 pm

Texas has a smallish free agent group this year.

Hamilton, Napoli and Mike Adams are the bigger ones.

Dempster, Colby, Uehara, Lowe (please go away) and Oswalt are the only others.

Feldman gets 9.25 if Texas keeps him, 600K if not. Easy choice.
Yoshi also has a similar type of contract, though not for near the money.

Feliz (1st year), Harrison (2nd year), Murphy (3rd year) and Alberto Gonzalez (2nd year) are the only arbitration eligible guys. I don't see any of the first three not coming back.

cap · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:13 pm

we're done

jim jack · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:17 pm **Posts:** 8919

Sweet Greggo wrote:

Okay, keep in mind who is typing this:

1. They'll have to sign him to too many years. All great the first 2 but after that the roids will wear off, his body will really start breaking down and he'll become a distraction.

2. His narcissism is detrimental to the team. Brown contacts? Quitting tobacco in the middle of the season? Doesn't owe the Rangers anything?

3. "As Josh goes, so do the Rangers" - It's great when he's up and loving life, but when he's going through one of his phases he drags the whole team down. There are several exceptional players on the team. They can be great without him.

4. He's killed once and he'll do it again.

All this being said, if they can talk him into taking a 4 year deal I would be the first one to say sign him up.

Actually,

or somesuch · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:48 am

jim jack wrote:

Actually,

Disagree.

Point #1 would be valid if he didn't throw out steroids and I'd give it at least 4 years, not 2. The rest get a big :notsure:

.

I do agree that a 4 year deal is ideal. Would love to have that with mutual options for years 5, 6, 7.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:46 am

I almost said a 4 year deal with options but I was afraid someone would ask me what the options were. :/

fruitdog · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am **Posts:** 6504

The contract will be 6 years minimum and the only options will be Josh's. STAY AWAY JD!

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:51 am

fruitdog wrote:

STAY AWAY JD!

The Rangers fan support survived Pudge's departure. They can survive Josh leaving as well.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

They'll need the extra money for a 4-year extension for Mike Young.

jim jack · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:17 pm **Posts:** 8919

Tit Whistle wrote:

They'll need the extra money for a 4-year extension for Mike Young.

Don't you even joke about stuff like that.

fruitdog · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am **Posts:** 6504

Tit Whistle wrote:

They'll need the extra money for a 4-year extension for Mike Young.

It will be the model for the one the Yankees sign Arod to in 2017.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:05 pm

Tit Whistle wrote:

They'll need the extra money for a 4-year extension for Mike Young.

bastard.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

fruitdog wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

They'll need the extra money for a 4-year extension for Mike Young.

It will be the model for the one the Yankees sign Arod to in 2017.

He'll be approaching 700 HRs by then.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Red shirts tonight, yay! PADMY on 3rd base tonight, boo!

bigboy · **Joined:** Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:57 pm **Posts:** 7484

That's been revised. Kinsler at 2nd, Beltre at DH.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:52 pm

bigboy wrote:

That's been revised. Kinsler at 2nd, Beltre at DH.

and Profar at 3rd? :prayer:

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