Mr. Tit Whistle person: Is FIOS still kickassage?

Lidless Eye · **Joined:** Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 531

Trying to decide whether to pull the trigger:

Good:
Fast as shit interweb
lots of TV channels with no extra compression
good discount for TV+35/35 internet

Fucked up:
2 year contract with no 30 day tryout period.
Bigass ETF (early term. fee)
Shitty DVR's
Apparently their almost out of bandwidth, so few new channels.

Sagger Pance · **Posted:** Wed May 19, 2010 5:06 pm

equipment in general is sketchy. and forget about responsive customer service (but that probably applies to all of them). and prepare to be hidden fee'd to holy hell. Other than that... it's pretty good. Don't overrate the bundles though. They make em sound good, but somehow the money we "save" is always put back on the bill in some other mysterious way.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

I still like it, but admittedly, I can't compare to TW or Comcast since I've never seen those in action. I do like it better than either satellite provider, though. Yeah, the DVR kinda sucks, but it records shows and that's all I need it for. It hasn't failed me yet. The internet kicks all kinds of ass. Outages are rare, and if they happen, they're quickly fixed.

Sagger Pance · **Posted:** Wed May 19, 2010 5:22 pm

can't really put a price on on demand. That's the shit right there.

rowdyhatinwalt · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 pm **Posts:** 20439

Tit Whistle wrote:

I still like it, but admittedly, I can't compare to TW or Comcast since I've never seen those in action. I do like it better than either satellite provider, though. Yeah, the DVR kinda sucks, but it records shows and that's all I need it for. It hasn't failed me yet. The internet kicks all kinds of ass. Outages are rare, and if they happen, they're quickly fixed.

The DVR sucks major ass.

rowdyhatinwalt · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 pm **Posts:** 20439

Tit Whistle wrote:

I still like it, but admittedly, I can't compare to TW or Comcast since I've never seen those in action. I do like it better than either satellite provider, though. Yeah, the DVR kinda sucks, but it records shows and that's all I need it for. It hasn't failed me yet. The internet kicks all kinds of ass. Outages are rare, and if they happen, they're quickly fixed.

Tit's dead on. I haven't had any outages that I know of yet. (every few months I have to reboot the router because the wifi shit gets all n-bombed up, but big deal)
The DVR lacks. The controls don't respond quickly enough. But, eh, who cares. Like Mr. Whistler says, it records fine, and that's all you need.
POop!

TerdFerguson · **Posted:** Wed May 19, 2010 5:32 pm

I am most pleased with TW. No complaints here.

rowdyhatinwalt · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 pm **Posts:** 20439

TerdFerguson wrote:

I am most pleased with TW. No complaints here.

well, yeh, Tit's a good poster, but we're talking about FIOS, Terd.

TerdFerguson · **Posted:** Wed May 19, 2010 5:40 pm

Ahh. First In First OutS inventory control. Gotcha.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Wed May 19, 2010 6:38 pm

TWC is good but they still don't have enough HD channels. DVR sucks. Best DVR on the market in Dish Network, hands down.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

Sagger Pance wrote:

prepare to be hidden fee'd to holy hell.

Don't overrate the bundles though. They make em sound good, but somehow the money we "save" is always put back on the bill in some other mysterious way.

These.

cap · **Posted:** Wed May 19, 2010 7:57 pm

dsl works just fine and is cheaper

rowdyhatinwalt · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 pm **Posts:** 20439

cap wrote:

dsl works just fine and is cheaper

what do dick sucking lips have to do with this?

Lidless Eye · **Joined:** Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 531

Sweet Greggo wrote:

TWC is good but they still don't have enough HD channels. DVR sucks. Best DVR on the market in Dish Network, hands down.

yah, thats what i'm afraid of. I've got dish now and the dvr's are great.

I'm still leaning towards trying it, but i'm thinking i'll want to dump the dvr pretty quick and get some tivo's with some smartcards. Might keep one of their basic boxes for on demand

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

The On-Demand is pretty awesome. I've never used it for movies, but I've caught up on a lot of shows with it.

Sagger Pance · **Posted:** Thu May 20, 2010 1:00 am

cap wrote:

dsl works just fine and is cheaper

This is a good point. You're probably never going to utilize the potential speed of your connection with FIOS. The numbers are great to think about, but i'm not sure how much you'd miss it if you "downgraded" from FIOS to dsl.

Don't forget to investigate Clear. That shit looks promising.

Sagger Pance · **Posted:** Thu May 20, 2010 1:05 am

Tit Whistle wrote:

The On-Demand is pretty awesome. I've never used it for movies, but I've caught up on a lot of shows with it.

The interface is pretty horrendous... especially combined with the unresponsive controls. I can't wait to move back into AT&T territory and get me some Uverse again. But you get used to FIOS and the total package probably outweighs the negatives... just be mindful of the money. I'd swear there's a shell game involved.

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Thu May 20, 2010 6:33 am

Sagger Pance wrote:

cap wrote:

dsl works just fine and is cheaper

This is a good point. You're probably never going to utilize the potential speed of your connection with FIOS. The numbers are great to think about, but i'm not sure how much you'd miss it if you "downgraded" from FIOS to dsl.

Don't forget to investigate Clear. That shit looks promising.

DSL isn't gonna help your tv watching.

rowdyhatinwalt · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 pm **Posts:** 20439

Sagger Pance wrote:

cap wrote:

dsl works just fine and is cheaper

This is a good point. You're probably never going to utilize the potential speed of your connection with FIOS. The numbers are great to think about, but i'm not sure how much you'd miss it if you "downgraded" from FIOS to dsl.

Don't forget to investigate Clear. That shit looks promising.

Yeh, I'd never notice going from a 'Vette to my Toaster car. I'll still be able to go 200 mph. :notsure:

or somesuch · **Posted:** Thu May 20, 2010 7:34 am

Tit Whistle wrote:

I still like it, but admittedly, I can't compare to TW or Comcast since I've never seen those in action. I do like it better than either satellite provider, though. Yeah, the DVR kinda sucks, but it records shows and that's all I need it for. It hasn't failed me yet. The internet kicks all kinds of ass. Outages are rare, and if they happen, they're quickly fixed.

I don't know how you do it. If my favorite team was out of market, I would have to have DTV to watch the regular season games.

We were fed up with DTV a couple of months ago because they wanted to charge us to come fix our picture, so we called up FIOS and were going to roll with them. DTV made us some ridiculously good offers, so we stuck around and cancelled our FIOS before they came out. So now I get to see the Skins go 6-10 this year. Reading about the DVRs and hidden fees, I'm glad we did, even though FIOS was still cheaper. We do use Verizon for internet though.

cap · **Posted:** Thu May 20, 2010 8:09 am

or somesuch wrote:

So now I get to see the Skins go 6-10 this year. .

Sweet Greggo · **Posted:** Thu May 20, 2010 8:26 am

or somesuch wrote:

So now I get to see the Skins go 6-10 this year.

Looks like someone's glass is half full.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

or somesuch wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

I still like it, but admittedly, I can't compare to TW or Comcast since I've never seen those in action. I do like it better than either satellite provider, though. Yeah, the DVR kinda sucks, but it records shows and that's all I need it for. It hasn't failed me yet. The internet kicks all kinds of ass. Outages are rare, and if they happen, they're quickly fixed.

I don't know how you do it. If my favorite team was out of market, I would have to have DTV to watch the regular season games.

We were fed up with DTV a couple of months ago because they wanted to charge us to come fix our picture, so we called up FIOS and were going to roll with them. DTV made us some ridiculously good offers, so we stuck around and cancelled our FIOS before they came out. So now I get to see the Skins go 6-10 this year. Reading about the DVRs and hidden fees, I'm glad we did, even though FIOS was still cheaper. We do use Verizon for internet though.

For out of market games, I got the MLB package online and I watch them on meh lappy. I soured on DTV when I was just getting into HD and they had around 10 HD channels and I had to keep resetting my receiver because only 2-3 of those channels would be listed. FIOS TV came to town and I jumped right on it. DTV had Tivo, which was cool because it made cute noises when you hit a button, but I quickly learned to live without that. A bad windstorm eventually blew the DTV dish off the side of the house. Glad I wasn't using it anymore.

fruitdog · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:09 am **Posts:** 6504

Do any HDDVRs really work that great? I think the DTV one is pretty subpar.

Lidless Eye · **Joined:** Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 531

the Dish DVR is a good

but this gives me wood

cap · **Posted:** Thu May 20, 2010 4:09 pm

Sagger Pance wrote:

can't really put a price on on demand. That's the shit right there.

howard tv

Sagger Pance · **Posted:** Fri May 21, 2010 12:08 pm

rowdyhatinwalt wrote:

Sagger Pance wrote:

cap wrote:

dsl works just fine and is cheaper

This is a good point. You're probably never going to utilize the potential speed of your connection with FIOS. The numbers are great to think about, but i'm not sure how much you'd miss it if you "downgraded" from FIOS to dsl.

Don't forget to investigate Clear. That shit looks promising.

Yeh, I'd never notice going from a 'Vette to my Toaster car. I'll still be able to go 200 mph. :notsure:

kinda bad metaphor. If you could go 200mph, but 95% of the roads will only allow you to go 80, you really gonna notice a big difference in a car that tops out at 75?

Sagger Pance · **Posted:** Fri May 21, 2010 12:13 pm

Tit Whistle wrote:

or somesuch wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

I still like it, but admittedly, I can't compare to TW or Comcast since I've never seen those in action. I do like it better than either satellite provider, though. Yeah, the DVR kinda sucks, but it records shows and that's all I need it for. It hasn't failed me yet. The internet kicks all kinds of ass. Outages are rare, and if they happen, they're quickly fixed.

I don't know how you do it. If my favorite team was out of market, I would have to have DTV to watch the regular season games.

We were fed up with DTV a couple of months ago because they wanted to charge us to come fix our picture, so we called up FIOS and were going to roll with them. DTV made us some ridiculously good offers, so we stuck around and cancelled our FIOS before they came out. So now I get to see the Skins go 6-10 this year. Reading about the DVRs and hidden fees, I'm glad we did, even though FIOS was still cheaper. We do use Verizon for internet though.

For out of market games, I got the MLB package online and I watch them on meh lappy. I soured on DTV when I was just getting into HD and they had around 10 HD channels and I had to keep resetting my receiver because only 2-3 of those channels would be listed. FIOS TV came to town and I jumped right on it. DTV had Tivo, which was cool because it made cute noises when you hit a button, but I quickly learned to live without that. A bad windstorm eventually blew the DTV dish off the side of the house. Glad I wasn't using it anymore.

In their defense the HD issue was just about solved about a year and a half ago. And the best part is that they kept the HD versions on a channel right next to the SD versions (kinda like over the air TV does)...so it's tons easier to find than with FIOS or Uverse.

Diello · **Joined:** Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:27 pm **Posts:** 2878

You all can suck on my coin purse.

Tit Whistle · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am **Posts:** 15284

Sagger Pance wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

or somesuch wrote:

Tit Whistle wrote:

I still like it, but admittedly, I can't compare to TW or Comcast since I've never seen those in action. I do like it better than either satellite provider, though. Yeah, the DVR kinda sucks, but it records shows and that's all I need it for. It hasn't failed me yet. The internet kicks all kinds of ass. Outages are rare, and if they happen, they're quickly fixed.

I don't know how you do it. If my favorite team was out of market, I would have to have DTV to watch the regular season games.

We were fed up with DTV a couple of months ago because they wanted to charge us to come fix our picture, so we called up FIOS and were going to roll with them. DTV made us some ridiculously good offers, so we stuck around and cancelled our FIOS before they came out. So now I get to see the Skins go 6-10 this year. Reading about the DVRs and hidden fees, I'm glad we did, even though FIOS was still cheaper. We do use Verizon for internet though.

For out of market games, I got the MLB package online and I watch them on meh lappy. I soured on DTV when I was just getting into HD and they had around 10 HD channels and I had to keep resetting my receiver because only 2-3 of those channels would be listed. FIOS TV came to town and I jumped right on it. DTV had Tivo, which was cool because it made cute noises when you hit a button, but I quickly learned to live without that. A bad windstorm eventually blew the DTV dish off the side of the house. Glad I wasn't using it anymore.

In their defense the HD issue was just about solved about a year and a half ago. And the best part is that they kept the HD versions on a channel right next to the SD versions (kinda like over the air TV does)...so it's tons easier to find than with FIOS or Uverse.

Well I'm glad they're on top of their shit because I dropped them about 2 1/2 years before they solved the problem.

TerdFerguson · **Posted:** Fri May 21, 2010 5:58 pm

Sagger Pance wrote:

rowdyhatinwalt wrote:

Sagger Pance wrote:

cap wrote:

dsl works just fine and is cheaper

This is a good point. You're probably never going to utilize the potential speed of your connection with FIOS. The numbers are great to think about, but i'm not sure how much you'd miss it if you "downgraded" from FIOS to dsl.

Don't forget to investigate Clear. That shit looks promising.

Yeh, I'd never notice going from a 'Vette to my Toaster car. I'll still be able to go 200 mph. :notsure:

kinda bad metaphor. If you could go 200mph, but 95% of the roads will only allow you to go 80, you really gonna notice a big difference in a car that tops out at 75?

Sagger is right.

rowdyhatinwalt · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 pm **Posts:** 20439

hi, Ted.

Cledus · **Posted:** Fri May 21, 2010 8:25 pm

HI Walt

rowdyhatinwalt · **Joined:** Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 pm **Posts:** 20439

CLEDUS!

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