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Profar(Choo when he comes of the DL)- LF
Mazara- RF
Desmond- CF
Beltre- 3B
Beltran-DH
Lucroy – C
Odor-2B
Mitch- 1B
Elvis- SS

that's a nice lineup

I think Profar was looking forward to going somewhere where he would be the shortstop. I wonder if his game won't be affected by the disappointment.

This was a terrible post.

Sweet Greggo wrote:

I think Profar was looking forward to going somewhere where he would be the shortstop. I wonder if his game won't be affected by the disappointment.

or somesuch wrote:

This was a terrible post.

I bet Corby says something similar when the hardline talks about this later today.

Not sure I completely trust him, but

Jeff Skin Wade ‏@SkinWade · 51m51 minutes ago

I know there were high level Ranger folks that were incredibly reluctant to part w/ Brinson unless they KNEW they were keeping Desmond, FWIW

Did you get that off the Rangers facebook page, Gam?

Profar(Choo when he comes of the DL)- LF
Mazara- RF
Desmond- CF
Beltre- 3B
Beltran-DH
Lucroy – C
Odor-2B
Mitch- 1B
Elvis- S
that's a nice lineup

I say bank that money and don't re-sign Desmond, Beltran or Mitch. Use it to try and re-sign / extend Yu and/or maybe Lucroy. Next year roll with Gallo at 1st, Delino in CF, DH Choo, and Profar super utility.

I get on my knees every night and thank the baby jeebus that they got rid of Kinsler and his 5 and a half game WAR and .779 OPS over the last 3 years. I mean, who needs to be saddled with that kind of productivity? The Rangers certainly would have no use for the 185 or so hits or 90 RBI he'll finish with this season.

Daniels catches a lot of shit for this trade, but I have a hard time faulting him for it. They were facing a log jam of youth in the middle infield and Fielder was assumed to be one of the healthiest players in the game at the time. I would submit the Matt Garza trade as a much bigger bowl of fuck than this one.

Daniels catches a lot of shit for this trade, but I have a hard time faulting him for it. They were facing a log jam of youth in the middle infield and Fielder was assumed to be one of the healthiest players in the game at the time. I would submit the Matt Garza trade as a much bigger bowl of fuck than this one.

Ryan Braun just tweeted his career would have lasted 6 months if not for Prince.

I know you hate Kinsler, but you're a baseball idiot and he's still a solid player.

bigboy wrote:

Baseball sissy here, and I detect sarcasm in that first paragraph.

How was Kinsler becoming a problem for JD?

bigboy wrote:

How was Kinsler becoming a problem for JD?

My take: Kins got upset when JD gave Andruss an 8 year deal after only getting five. Everyone knew Profar was coming up and by signing Elvis to a long term deal it pretty much told Kins he was the odd man out. He got upset. I remember there was talk of him becoming an issue in the clubhouse. To top it off, he refused to mentor the yungins. JD had enough and pulled the trigger and got rid of him.

Author:	or somesuch [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:42 pm ]
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fruitdog wrote: Profar(Choo when he comes of the DL)- LF Mazara- RF Desmond- CF Beltre- 3B Beltran-DH Lucroy – C Odor-2B Mitch- 1B Elvis- SS that's a nice lineup With a Profar, Chirinos, Rua bench. Or play Profar at 1B or in a platoon, because Mitch isn't going to fool me twice and you can't fool me again.

Author:	Tit Whistle [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:44 pm ]
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Sweet Greggo wrote: I think Profar was looking forward to going somewhere where he would be the shortstop. I wonder if his game won't be affected by the disappointment. or somesuch wrote: This was a terrible post.

Author:	fruitdog [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:44 pm ]
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Did you get that off the Rangers facebook page, Gam?

Author:	Sweet Greggo [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:44 pm ]
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Tit Whistle wrote: Sweet Greggo wrote: I think Profar was looking forward to going somewhere where he would be the shortstop. I wonder if his game won't be affected by the disappointment. or somesuch wrote: This was a terrible post. Mark my words! Mark them!

Author:	fruitdog [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:45 pm ]
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I bet Corby says something similar when the hardline talks about this later today.

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Author:	fruitdog [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:48 pm ]
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The best part about this is hopefully we never have to see anymore of Jared Hoying or Brett Nicholas anytime soon.

Author:	or somesuch [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:50 pm ]
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Not sure I completely trust him, but Jeff Skin Wade ‏@SkinWade · 51m51 minutes ago I know there were high level Ranger folks that were incredibly reluctant to part w/ Brinson unless they KNEW they were keeping Desmond, FWIW

Author:	cap [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:53 pm ]
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fruitdog wrote: I bet Corby says something similar when the hardline talks about this later today. corby is a sports idiot.

Author:	Sweet Greggo [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:54 pm ]
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fruitdog wrote: I bet Corby says something similar when the hardline talks about this later today. [corby] It's just gotta be hard on the kid, ya know? I mean I know FOR A FACT that he wants to play here, ya know? But there's just no room in the infield and there's no way, NO WAY Elvis goes anywhere, ya know? For all the ups and downs that guy's had he STILL the fan favorite, ya know? [/corby]

Author:	fruitdog [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:01 pm ]
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or somesuch wrote: Not sure I completely trust him, but Jeff Skin Wade ‏@SkinWade · 51m51 minutes ago I know there were high level Ranger folks that were incredibly reluctant to part w/ Brinson unless they KNEW they were keeping Desmond, FWIW I heard that if oil tops $50 a barrel he'll get a long term deal.

Author:	Sweet Greggo [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:32 pm ]
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fruitdog wrote: Did you get that off the Rangers facebook page, Gam? how. did. you. know.

Author:	jim jack [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:17 pm ]
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Seeing the sad trade deadline posts on Angelswin.com is better than any comedy on the teevee.

Author:	Sweet Greggo [ Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:24 pm ]
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Here's hoping Choo can be the shot in the arm the offense needs. If he's healthy he's hitting.

Author:	cap [ Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:45 pm ]
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fruitdog wrote: Profar(Choo when he comes of the DL)- LF Mazara- RF Desmond- CF Beltre- 3B Beltran-DH Lucroy – C Odor-2B Mitch- 1B Elvis- S that's a nice lineup not

Author:	Tit Whistle [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:25 pm ]
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‏@Ken_Rosenthal Sources: Prince Fielder’s career appears over. #Rangers expected to hold press conference tomorrow.

Author:	Tit Whistle [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:57 pm ]
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This is probably similar to the Albert Belle situation. They'll get most of the money back from insurance but he might have to remain on the 40-man til the contract is up. The rules may have changed since then.

Author:	Sweet Greggo [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:01 pm ]
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Sad to hear but glad they're not dragging this out so it affects payroll. I wish Prince would have had better luck while he was here. On the brighter side this comes out as a win/win for the Rangers, having offloaded Kinsler and now getting out from under Prince's contract.

Author:	fruitdog [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:51 pm ]
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Reports are insurance will cover half so Rangers will still owe him 9 a year till 2020. I think he will have to stay on the 40 man during the off season (Belle did) though so that hurts the Rangers for the rule 5 draft (he'll be on the 60 day DL during the season so no spot taken then).

Author:	jim jack [ Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:39 pm ]
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Eric Nadel slows his speech down every time he says "wild card hunt."

Author:	jim jack [ Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:02 pm ]
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Lucroy described the experience of being traded to the Rangers. I am pretty happy right about now. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1722 ... ded-winner

Author:	or somesuch [ Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:59 am ]
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Banny is going to break Dyson. You don't have to use your "closer" every time there is a save situation. You have five legit bullpen guys. Use the fresh one.

Author:	or somesuch [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:24 pm ]
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Wonder how much they save, if any. He finished with the same amount of HRs as Cecil. Ryan Braun just tweeted his career would have lasted 6 months if not for Prince.

Author:	Tit Whistle [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:23 pm ]
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I wouldn't call it win/win. They got one productive year from a guy in exchange for Kinsler. I know you hate Kinsler, but you're a baseball idiot and he's still a solid player. They could've gotten a lot more for him. And the insurance thing isn't so cut 'n dry. His $18M may still count toward the luxury tax so they can't just throw another $18M at other players without it affecting their bottom line somehow. The Belle thing hurt the O's for a few years, but admittedly, they were dumb.

Author:	fruitdog [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:56 pm ]
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I say bank that money and don't re-sign Desmond, Beltran or Mitch. Use it to try and re-sign / extend Yu and/or maybe Lucroy. Next year roll with Gallo at 1st, Delino in CF, DH Choo, and Profar super utility.

Author:	bigboy [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:58 pm ]
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I get on my knees every night and thank the baby jeebus that they got rid of Kinsler and his 5 and a half game WAR and .779 OPS over the last 3 years. I mean, who needs to be saddled with that kind of productivity? The Rangers certainly would have no use for the 185 or so hits or 90 RBI he'll finish with this season. Daniels catches a lot of shit for this trade, but I have a hard time faulting him for it. They were facing a log jam of youth in the middle infield and Fielder was assumed to be one of the healthiest players in the game at the time. I would submit the Matt Garza trade as a much bigger bowl of fuck than this one.

Author:	bigboy [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:59 pm ]
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fruitdog wrote: I say bank that money and don't re-sign Desmond, Beltran or Mitch. Use it to try and re-sign / extend Yu and/or maybe Lucroy. Next year roll with Gallo at 1st, Delino in CF, DH Choo, and Profar super utility. I can live with that lineup. The Facebook Ranger fans are gonna lose their shit if Desmond walks.

Author:	fruitdog [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:01 pm ]
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Maybe, depends how he finishes. He's been pretty bad lately.

Author:	rowdyhatinwalt [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:05 pm ]
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bigboy wrote: I get on my knees every night and thank the baby jeebus that they got rid of Kinsler and his 5 and a half game WAR and .779 OPS over the last 3 years. I mean, who needs to be saddled with that kind of productivity? The Rangers certainly would have no use for the 185 or so hits or 90 RBI he'll finish with this season. Daniels catches a lot of shit for this trade, but I have a hard time faulting him for it. They were facing a log jam of youth in the middle infield and Fielder was assumed to be one of the healthiest players in the game at the time. I would submit the Matt Garza trade as a much bigger bowl of fuck than this one. Baseball sissy here, and I detect sarcasm in that first paragraph.

Author:	fruitdog [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:11 pm ]
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The Rangers caught a break but it'd be pretty dang awesome to have first half of 2015 Prince around all the time and he genuinely seemed like a good dude. Both Princes in the same year, what a shame.

Author:	bigboy [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:13 pm ]
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Prince seems like a good clubhouse guy, fits in well with the makeup of the team. Signing Desmond to a big multi-year deal would be risky. His season so far is the outlier of his career.

Author:	or somesuch [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:41 pm ]
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Desmond has had three other really good years. Last year seemed to be the outlier. I get not wanting to re-sign him though if it means losing Yu. Hope they have something else planned for center if they let him walk, because they don't have a starting CF on the roster. Delino is replacement level. I think Gallo gets first crack at 1b next year.

Author:	or somesuch [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:46 pm ]
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bigboy wrote: Daniels catches a lot of shit for this trade, but I have a hard time faulting him for it. They were facing a log jam of youth in the middle infield and Fielder was assumed to be one of the healthiest players in the game at the time. I would submit the Matt Garza trade as a much bigger bowl of fuck than this one. Agree completely. Or Ryan Dempster. Look at the year Kyle Hendricks has been having, though his peripherals don't match up with his numbers.

Author:	jim jack [ Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:23 pm ]
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or somesuch wrote: Ryan Braun just tweeted his career would have lasted 6 months if not for Prince.

Author:	Sweet Greggo [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:15 am ]
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Tit Whistle wrote: I know you hate Kinsler, but you're a baseball idiot and he's still a solid player. Kins was becoming a problem for JD so he had to go. It was probably best for both sides.

Author:	or somesuch [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:28 am ]
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Kinsler was coming off a sub-par season for him (still solid), there was a middle infield logjam and they had a need for power at 1B/DH, as Mitch was coming off a shitty season. The trade made sense at the time. Hindsight shows it was a failure. I don't blame JD, but I don't think it can be considered win/win.

Author:	Sweet Greggo [ Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:29 am ]
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I meant that since he's hurt, rather than this dragging out for years a la Hamilton where it would cost the team serious money for a non-productive player, he is retiring. So the Rangers are getting off the hook for a LOT of money here. Obviously the best win/win scenario would be a healthy Prince knocking 40 dingers every year of his contract and helping the team win a championship.

Author:	bigboy [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:05 am ]
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How was Kinsler becoming a problem for JD?

Author:	bigboy [ Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:07 am ]
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rowdyhatinwalt wrote: bigboy wrote: I get on my knees every night and thank the baby jeebus that they got rid of Kinsler and his 5 and a half game WAR and .779 OPS over the last 3 years. I mean, who needs to be saddled with that kind of productivity? The Rangers certainly would have no use for the 185 or so hits or 90 RBI he'll finish with this season. Daniels catches a lot of shit for this trade, but I have a hard time faulting him for it. They were facing a log jam of youth in the middle infield and Fielder was assumed to be one of the healthiest players in the game at the time. I would submit the Matt Garza trade as a much bigger bowl of fuck than this one. Baseball sissy here, and I detect sarcasm in that first paragraph. You have to wake up pretty early in the morning to sneak anything past your pointy head.